Advice vs. Being Told. by Dean Gotcher

Advice vs. Being Told.
(Personal note.)

by
Dean Gotcher

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." 1 John 2:16

The soul knows by being told. The flesh by "sense experience."

Being advised (when it comes to behavior) is different than being told. When you follow the advice someone gives you that is wrong you are at fault when things go wrong. When you follow the directions someone gives you that are wrong, they are at fault when things go wrong. "I feel" and "I think," i.e., opinion is different than "I know," i.e., "Do it this way or else," i.e., preaching, teaching, discussion. Knowing right from wrong is different than having an opinion of what is right and what is wrong.

"Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished." Proverbs 16:5

In the dialoguing of opinions to a consensus process you are held accountable, i.e., pay the price (or blame someone else, having them pay the price) when things go wrong, despite the advisor (and you) being wrong. There is no wrong, i.e., "Can not," "Must not," "Thou shalt not," "Because I said so," "It is written," i.e., established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., father's/Father's authority in dialogue, in an opinion, or in the consensus process, there is only your (and the other persons) carnal desires, i.e., "self interests," i.e., "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., current situation and or people are stimulating.

"Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm," Jeremiah 17:5

By putting into praxis the advice someone gives you, who (which) is wrong, 'liberates' him from being held accountable when things go wrong. If anything goes wrong it is your fault for taking his advice. When you follow his advice, especially when you KNOW better (having been told what do), simply means you chose your carnal desires, i.e., your "self interests," i.e., your "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or people are stimulating over and therefore against established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., the father's/Father's authority, i.e., being told.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God." Luke 16:15

In a discussion you must suspend, as upon a cross your carnal desires, i.e., your "self interests," i.e., your "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and or people are stimulating in order to hear and receive the truth. In a dialogue you must suspend, as upon a cross any command, rule, fact, or truth that gets in the way of your (and the other person's) carnal desires, i.e., "self interests," i.e., "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and or people are stimulating. The objective of insisting upon dialogue instead of discussion is to ...

"... prevent someone who KNOWS from filling the empty space" (Wilfred Bion, A Memoir of the Future)

This is why all communication today has rejected the preaching, teaching, discussing of established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., the father's/Father's authority that gets in the way of "the peoples" carnal desires, i.e., "self interests," i.e., "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or people are stimulating, replacing it with dialogue, i.e., "the peoples" ("the groups") carnal desires, i.e., "self interests," i.e., "lusts" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or people are stimulating, in order for the leader, i.e., the facilitator of 'change' to "lust" after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or people are stimulating without having a guilty conscience (which the father's/Father's authority engenders for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning, i.e., for "lusting" of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or persons are stimulating), with "the peoples" affirmation.

"It is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jeremiah 10:23

"[E]very one of us shall give account of himself to God." Romans 14:12

In a world of preaching, teaching, discussing the leader is held accountable for being wrong. In a world of dialogue you are held accountable when things go wrong, not your advisor who will throw you "under the bus" the moment that moment comes. It is not his fault. It is yours—for taking his advice, i.e., for putting theory, i.e., your opinion, i.e., your "self interest," i.e., your "lust" into practice, i.e., praxis (which established' your "lusting" after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' that the world, i.e., the current situation and/or persons are stimulating over and therefore against doing the father's/Father's will, i.e., being told).

"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." Matthew 12:50

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:32, 33

"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself [his "lusts"], and take up his cross daily [endure the rejection of other's for not affirming their "lusts"], and follow me [the Lord, doing the Father's will]." Luke 9:23

"Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is." Jeremiah 17:7

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil." Proverbs 16:5

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Proverb. 3: 5-6

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:3, 4

Facilitators of 'change,' i.e., psychologists, i.e., behavioral "scientists," i.e., "group psychotherapists," i.e., Marxists (Transformational Marxists)—all being the same in method or formula—are using the dialoguing of opinions to a consensus (affirmation) process, i.e., dialectic 'reasoning' ('reasoning' from/through the students "feelings" of the 'moment,' i.e., from/through their "lust" for pleasure and their hate of restraint, in the "light" of their desire for group approval, i.e., affirmation and fear of group rejection) in the "group grade," "safe zone/space/place," "Don't be negative, be positive," soviet style, brainwashing (washing the father's/Father's authority from the children's thoughts and actions, i.e., "theory and practice," negating their having a guilty conscience, which the father's/father's authority engenders, for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning in the process—called "the negation of negation" since the father's/Father's authority and the guilty conscience, being negative to the child's carnal nature, is negated in dialogue—in dialogue, opinion, and the consensus process there is no father's/Father's authority), inductive 'reasoning' ('reasoning' from/through the students "feelings," i.e., their natural inclination to "lust" after the carnal pleasures of the 'moment'—dopamine emancipation—which the world stimulates, i.e., their "self interest," i.e., their "sense experience," selecting "appropriate information"—excluding, ignoring, or resisting, i.e., rejecting any "inappropriate" information, i.e., established command, rule, fact, or truth that gets in the way of their desired outcome, i.e., pleasure—in determining right from wrong behavior), "Bloom's Taxonomy," "affective domain," French Revolution (Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité) classroom "environment" in order (as in "new" world order) to 'liberate' children from parental authority, i.e., from the father's/Father's authority system (the Patriarchal Paradigm)—seducing, deceiving, and manipulating them as chickens, rats, and dogs, i.e., treating them as natural resource ("human resource") in order to convert them into 'liberals,' socialists, globalists, so they, 'justifying' their "self" before one another, can do wrong, disobey, sin, i.e., "lust" with impunity.

"Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken." Jeremiah 6:16, 17

Home schooling material, co-ops, conferences, etc., are joining in the same praxis, fulfilling Immanuel Kant's as well as Georg Hegel's, Karl Marx's, and Sigmund Freud's agenda of using the pattern or method of Genesis 3:1-6, i.e., "self" 'justification,' i.e., dialectic (dialogue) 'reasoning," i.e., 'reasoning' from/through your "feelings," i.e., your carnal desires of the 'moment' which are being stimulated by the world (including your desire for approval from others, with them affirming your carnal nature) in order to negate Hebrews 12:5-11, i.e., the father's/Father's authority, i.e., having to humble, deny, die to, control, discipline your "self" in order to do the father's/Father's will, negating Romans 7:14-25, i.e., your having a guilty conscience when you do wrong, disobey, sin, thereby negating your having to repent before the father/Father for your doing wrong, disobedience, sins—which is the real agenda.

"And for this cause [because men, as "children of disobedience," 'justify' their "self," i.e., 'justify' their love of "self" and the world, i.e., their love of the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' (dopamine emancipation) which the world stimulates over and therefore against the Father's authority] God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie [that pleasure is the standard for "good" instead of doing the Father's will]: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth [in the Father and in His Son, Jesus Christ], but had pleasure in unrighteousness [in their "self" and the pleasures of the 'moment,' which the world stimulates]." 2 Thessalonians 2:11, 12